4 May 2025

Ukraine war: Zelensky says he discussed air defence, sanctions with Trump in Vatican meeting

11:06 am on 4 May 2025

By Anastasiia Malenko and Max Hunder, Reuters

(FILES) In this handout photograph taken and posted on the official Telegram channel of Ukraine's Head of the Office of the President Andriy Yermak on April 26, 2025, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky (R) meets with US President Donald Trump (L) on the sidelines of Pope Francis's funeral at St. Peter's Basilica at the Vatican. The United States and Ukraine on April 30, 2025 signed a minerals deal after a two-month delay, in what President Donald Trump's administration called a new form of US commitment to Kyiv after the end of military aid. Ukraine said it secured key interests after protracted negotiations, including full sovereignty over its own rare earths, which are vital for new technologies and largely untapped. (Photo by Handout / Telegram /@ermaka2022 / AFP) / RESTRICTED TO EDITORIAL USE - MANDATORY CREDIT "AFP PHOTO / OFFICIAL TELEGRAM CHANNEL OF THE HEAD OF THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE ANDRIY YERMAK" - NO MARKETING NO ADVERTISING CAMPAIGNS - DISTRIBUTED AS A SERVICE TO CLIENTS

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky (right) meets with US President Donald Trump (left) on the sidelines of Pope Francis's funeral at St. Peter's Basilica at the Vatican. Photo: AFP / OFFICIAL TELEGRAM CHANNEL OF THE HEAD OF THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE ANDRIY YERMAK

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  • Says US-Ukraine critical minerals deal enhances defence and economic ties
  • Reiterates Ukraine seeks 30-day ceasefire as first step towards peace, not three-day truce proposed by Putin

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said he discussed air defence systems and sanctions on Russia with Donald Trump on the sidelines of Pope Francis's funeral at the Vatican, in what he called the best meeting the two had ever had.

In comments released by his presidential administration, Zelensky also said he and the US president agreed that a 30-day ceasefire between Kyiv and Moscow was the correct first step towards ending the war in Ukraine.

He said he raised the topic of sanctions with Trump at the impromptu meeting last week, and that Trump's response on this question was "very strong". Zelensky did not give specifics.

He also said the critical minerals deal signed by the two countries on Wednesday was mutually beneficial, and that it would allow Ukraine to defend future US investments, as well as its own territory and people.

The accord, heavily touted by Trump, will give the United States preferential access to new Ukrainian minerals deals and unleash US investment in Ukraine's reconstruction.

Zelensky said that the money would, at least initially, be reinvested and not leave Ukraine.

"Only if the parties then, in the future, agree that in 20 years the fund is fine, things are being built, there is production," he said, appearing to refer to the possibility of withdrawals in the longer term.

The deal aims to establish a fund to manage investments and hold profits. Zelensky said there will be a 3-3 split between Ukrainian and US appointees on the plan's supervisory board, which would choose its director.

On the security element of the deal, Zelensky highlighted the importance of more effective air defences that have remained one of Kyiv's main requests to its allies throughout Russia's three-year-old full-scale invasion.

"And so we are ready for air defence systems to be a contribution (to the fund). I told him about the number (of systems that we need) - he told me that they will work on it, (that) these things are not free."

Zelensky said that US$30 billion (NZ$50.5 billion) of military aid allocated in 2024 by the US Congress was due to be supplied in 2025 and 2026, US$15 billion (NZ$25 billion) of it each year. It was not clear if his remark included aid already supplied in 2025.

His comments raised the issue of whether the amount allocated for 2026 could, as a result of the minerals agreement, be brought forward to this year, and then counted towards the US contribution to the deal's fund.

"Ukraine will then return its half bit by bit, and this is what the agreement is about," Zelensky said. "What is historic about this event is that the Americans can come to the Ukrainian market for the first time."

The minerals agreement was reached at a time when the US says it is growing increasingly frustrated by the failure of Moscow and Kyiv to come to the table for peace talks.

Kyiv says it wants an immediate unconditional ceasefire for at least 30 days. Russian President Vladimir Putin has said he agrees in principle, but that there are many issues that need to be clarified before that can happen.

Responding to Moscow's offer of a three-day ceasefire around 9 May, when Russia celebrates its World War Two victory over Nazi Germany, Zelensky said he was ready as long as the truce would be 30 days in length.

He said Ukraine, given continued war with Russia, could not guarantee the safety of any foreign dignitaries who came to Moscow for the traditional 9 May victory parade there.

"We cannot be responsible for what happens on the territory of the Russian Federation. They are responsible for your security, and therefore we will not give you any guarantees."

In response, Dmitry Medvedev, hardline deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, said nobody could guarantee the Ukrainian capital Kyiv would survive to see 10 May if Ukraine attacked Moscow on 9 May.

- Reuters

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