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Director Ursula Grace Williams on the making of Marlon Williams: Ngā Ao E Rua - Two Worlds

3 May 2025

Tony Stamp speaks with Ursula Grace Williams, the director of a new feature documentary called Marlon Williams: Ngā Ao E Rua - Two Worlds, about the making of his new te reo Maori album Te Whare Tiwekaweka. Audio

Saturday 3 May 2025

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1:30 Director of Ngā Ao E Rua, Ursula Grace Williams

The documentary, Marlon Williams: Ngā Ao E Rua - Two Worlds, follows Marlon Williams (Ngāi Tahu, Ngāi Tai) over four years as he reconnects with his whakapapa, embraces te reo Māori and writes and records his first full album in te reo, Te Whare Tīwekaweka.

Tony Stamp speaks with Ursula Grace Williams, the director of the new feature documentary, about how it came to be, what it took to make, and what it means to her.

Ursula Grace Williams, Director of Marlon Williams: Ngā Ao E Rua - Two Worlds

Ursula Grace Williams, Director of Marlon Williams: Ngā Ao E Rua - Two Worlds Photo: Music 101

See the trailer for the Documentary here:

2:15 Self Esteem: 'I think there’s a toxicity to constant positivity'

Rebecca Lucy Taylor, the UK musician who makes music as Self Esteem, joins Tony Stamp on the show.

For around 10 years Rebecca Lucy Taylor was one half of UK indie duo Slow Club, but when she began releasing solo music as Self Esteem in 2017 saw her profile start to rise. Her 2021 album Prioritise Pleasure was hugely acclaimed, elevating her to a level of fame in the UK that saw appearances on The Graham Norton Show, Later… With Jools Holland, Taskmaster, and an array of panel shows.

Tony Stamp interviewed Rebecca for that album, Tony speaks with her again for her new LP, A Complicated Woman

Songs Played:

  • Focus is Power

  • I Do and I Don't Care

  • Cheers to Me

  • The Curse

  • If Not Now, It's Soon

Rebecca Lucy Taylor AKA Self Esteem

Rebecca Lucy Taylor AKA Self Esteem Photo: Scarlett Carlos Clarke

3:15 Blondshell returns with her second Studio Album

Blondshell is the pseudonym of Sabrina Mae Teitelbaum, a Los Angeles musician whose self-titled debut drew huge acclaim for her unfiltered lyrics about bad relationships. Tony Stamp speaks to Blondshell, off the back of the release of her second Studio Album, If You Asked for a Picture.

Songs Played:

  • T & A

  • 23's a Baby

Blondshell

Photo: Supplied

3:40 The Sampler: 'Heavy Metal' by Cameron Winter 

Maggie Tweedie explores the experimental new album Heavy Metal by alternative New York–based musician Cameron Winter.

Songs Played:

  • The Rolling Stones

  • Nausicaä (Love Will Be Revealed)

  • Love Takes Miles

  • Cancer of the Skull

Cameron Winter Heavy Metal album cover

Cameron Winter- Heavy Winter album Photo: supplied

4:05 The Mixtape: Harry Ratbag

Auckland based Music Fan, Contributor, Writer, DJ, and Musician, Harry Russell aka Harry Ratbag, was once described as a legend in his own lunchtime that has taken him on to London and New York where he worked for the enigmatic Rough Trade label and associate with a who’s who of very interesting alternative music legends. 

Trevor Reekie talks to Harry Ratbag about the music that has always resonated on his journey through life.

Songs Played:

  • Rolling Stones - Sweet Black Angel

  • Big Black - Bazooka Joe

  • Spiritualized - Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space (Live)

  • Mr Fingers - Can You Feel It

  • Galaxy to Galaxy - Hi Tech Jazz

  • Snowboy - Casa Forte (Joe Claussell's Spiritual Life Samba Remix)

Harry Russell sometime in the 1980s.

Harry Russell sometime in the 1980s. Photo: Simon Grigg

Songs Played:

1pm - 2pm

Isle of Light - Kenny Sterling

Voom - Crazy Feeling

Michaela Tempers - Good Woman

The Beths - Metal

Hemi Hemingway - (To Be) Without You

MĀ - Decay

Marlon Williams - Kōrero Māori

Marlon Williams - Pōkaia Rā Te Marama

Ugly - Sha

Bonobo - Rings

2pm - 3pm

Harry Mudie - Roman Dub

Joe Cocker - Feelin Alright

Romi Wrights - Bring It Back

Vera Ellen - A Person I Like

Self Esteem - Focus is Power

Self Esteem - I Do and I Don't Care

Self Esteem - Cheers to Me

Self Esteem - The Curse

Self Esteem - If Not Now, It's Soon

Neive Strang - Gather Round

Liam Finn - The Howl

Dam Native, Teremoana Rapley - The Horrified One

Joe Kaptein - Eternal Afternoon

3pm - 4pm

Alessandro Alessandroni - Spiagge Azzurre

Betty Wright - Clean Up Woman

Holly Arrowsmith - Could’ve Been a River

Blondshell - T & A

Blondshell - 23's a Baby

Dina Ogon - Det Lacker

Benjamin Booker - Show and Tell

Cameron Winter - The Rolling Stones

Cameron Winter - Nausicaä (Love Will Be Revealed)

Cameron Winter - Love Takes Miles

Cameron Winter - Cancer of the Skull

Troy Kingi - Cactus Handshake

Supergroove - Next Time

Half Hexagon - Buy the Farm

Fred Again - Marea

4pm - 5pm

Rolling Stones - Sweet Black Angel

Big Black - Bazooka Joe

Spiritualized - Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space (Live)

Mr Fingers - Can You Feel It

Galaxy to Galaxy - Hi Tech Jazz

Snowboy - Casa Forte (Joe Claussell's Spiritual Life Samba Remix)