8:10 Historians at sea

We may be living in historic times but it's a bad time to be a historian.

The Ministry for Culture and Heritage is disestablishing four of its five senior historian roles, to try and save money to meet new budget targets.

These historians are people who maintain the official record of New Zealand: websites like Te Ara, the New Zealand Encyclopedia and NZHistory.net.

Former Chief Historian Jock Phillips is also a former general editor of Te Ara. He joins Emile to discuss what some have called a 'war on history'. 

No caption

Photo: Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand

New Zealand Government buildings, House neo classical style House of Parliament with Beehive behind with iconic ponga fern frond one of NZ's emblems.

Photo: 123RF

8:25 The House

Tonight on The House, Phil Smith reports on the possible changes to Parliament's Question Time.

8:30 Live from the 2025 Bakels New Zealand Supreme Pie Awards

Emile Donovan crosses to the glitz and glamour of our nation's pie awards to congratulate a gold category winner.

Bakels Supreme Pie Awards

Sometimes it's hard to choose between two great pies. Photo: RNZ / Tom Taylor

8:40 Shower Thoughts: How do you get a patent?

Every Tuesday, we find experts to answer curious questions about the world and how it works.

Leading patent attorney Matt Adams, a partner at trans-Tasman intellectual property firm FB Rice, joins Emile Donovan from RNZ's Wellington studio to explain how you get a patent, how they're enforced, and why you might need one.

A shopping cart patent from 2007. Photo:

9:05 Nights Quiz

Do you know your stuff? Come on the air and be grilled by Emile Donovan as he dons his quizmaster hat.

If you get an answer right, you move on to the next question. If you get it wrong, your time in the chair is up, and the next caller will be put through. The person with the most correct answers at the end of the run goes in the draw for a weekly prize.

9:25 The declining rate of cousins

It's common to talk about the declining birth rate and the impact this might have on children growing up with fewer, or perhaps no, siblings. Less considered is the flow-on effect this has on the wider family structure: such as the decline in the number of cousins.  

In generations past it was much more common to not only have cousins but to grow up with them, forming bonds that could be just as significant as those between siblings.

So how does this change re-shape our society and traditional support networks, moving forward? 

Professor Dan Woodman, a sociologist from Melbourne University - who himself has fourteen cousins - joins Emile Donovan. 

Professor of Sociology, Dan Woodman

Professor of Sociology, Dan Woodman Photo: SUPPLIED/University of Melbourne

9:45 Pacific Waves

A daily current affairs programme that delves deeper into the major stories of the week, through a Pacific lens, and shines a light on issues affecting Pacific people wherever they are in the world. Hosted by Susana Suisuiki.

Follow this podcast

10:17 The Detail

Rights groups are concerned a government spotlight on terror laws will see protest, freedom of speech and advocacy endangered. Amanda Gillies reports.

Follow this podcast

A policewoman stands guard outside the Linwood Mosque in Christchurch, New Zealand on March 21, 2019. New Zealand has banned the sale of assault rifles and semi-automatic weapons after the country's worst-ever attack that killed 50 people in two mosques last Friday, 15 March.  (Photo by Sanka Vidanagama/NurPhoto) (Photo by SANKA VIDANAGAMA / NurPhoto / NurPhoto via AFP)

Photo: Sanka Vidanagama / NurPhoto via AFP

10:45 The Reading

Part two of "The Trouble Begins at Eight" recalling Mark Twain's visit to New Zealand in 1895. Not that he had a great opinion of travellers.

11:07 Worlds of Music

Trevor Reekie hosts a weekly music programme celebrating an eclectic mix of trans global music, fusion and folk roots.

Trevor Reekie smiling wearing a black cap

Photo: RNZ / Jeff McEwan