First Up - The Podcast, Thursday 13 October

On today's First Up pod - we're in Ukraine and Russia as attacks on key infrastructures continue; we meet the 23-year-old who could become the youngest mayor in the country today; the deputy prime minister Grant Robertson speaks to us from the United States and Ruapehu businesses say the government should step in to help ski field operator RAL stay afloat to avoid disaster for the district. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!