First Up - The Podcast, Thursday 10 April

On today's First Up pod: our correspondents in Pakistan and the UK join us with the reaction to US tariffs from their corner of the world; little spotted kiwi once again roam Nelson; some sad news, former All Blacks team doctor John 'Doc' Mayhew died yesterday - we talk to sport reporter Grant Chapman about his legacy and we talk to music therapist Luke Stothart about what he loves about his job First Up - Voice of the Nathan!