First Up - The Podcast, Monday 25 August

On today's First Up pod: the Rugby World Cup has kicked off - the Black Ferns are playing Spain Nathan gives updates; staying with sport, our Europe correspondent tell us about stubby legged dog racing; Donald Trump has a plan to send the National Guard to Chicago, our US correspondent explains why and watch out Auckland - thousands of teenagers are in town for the Secondary School Sport Tournament Week we catch up with organiser, teacher and Olympic kayaker Max Brown. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!