First Up - The Podcast, Monday 1 December

On today's First Up pod: nuns on the run in Europe; in the US, a Ukranian delegation is in Florida to discuss President Trump's peace plan; the Special Olympics' national summer games in Christchurch are about to kick off and we catch up with the new boss of Surfing New Zealand - 22 year old Jimi Higgins! First Up - Voice of the Nathan.