First Up - The Podcast, Monday 20 November

On today's First Up pod - The WHO calls the al-Shifa hospital a death zone - we have the latest from the conflict in Gaza and reaction from the USA; Peter Dunne's here as coalition talks stretch into another week and also the thinking game for fans of steak cut chips, our reporter Leonard Powell finds out what it takes to put together a pub quiz. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!