First Up - The Podcast, Tuesday 12 December

On today's First Up pod - move over Wordle - we speak to the creator of the game Gubbins; Japan prepares for Christmas and no New Year celebrations at Shibuya; Nicola Willis explains plans to repeal Fair Pay Agreements before Christmas and with more people doing it tough, Sir Michael Jones tells us about the Big Feed telethon. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!