First Up - The Podcast, Thursday 15 August

On today's First Up pod with Jimmy Ellingham: Labour deputy leader Carmel Sepuloni joins us to talk about the week in politics; we hear about the time our national football team played a tournament in Saigon, during the Vietnam War and we catch up with Olympic swimmer Hazel Ouwehand fresh off her long-haul flight home from Paris. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!